Comments on: How do you convince a free content advocate (like me) to join 1stfans? /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/ Technology blog of the Brooklyn Museum Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:42:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.3 By: Whoa - restricted access twitter art - a new arts funding model | The Present Group Journal /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-995 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:32:55 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-995 […] does seem as though they’ve gotten some backlash for charging people to see their twitter feed.  But I don’t think they are […]

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By: Matt Morgan /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-641 Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:13:52 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-641 @Greg–

No Twitter user (Brooklyn Museum among them) will impact Twitter’s progression toward being overrun by “commercial interests.” They are already driven by commercial interests, and they always have been.

Twitter is neither open nor free. It is one sell-out away from overbearing advertising, unsettling challenges to online privacy, and unscrupulous data-mining and -sharing. It may not happen this year, but it will happen soon (it’s either sell or die).

We use Twitter because it works. They provide a platform to us because they want us to make it work. It’s as simple as that–there is no cause here for you to defend (except Brooklyn Museum’s).

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By: Tina Glengary /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-629 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:12:45 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-629 I agree with aehny, the museum membership model is inherently different than large companies. It would take something pretty amazing to get me to pay $20 to follow Nike or Apple on Twitter.

And if more museums charge for memberships on social networks that offer great incentives for members, more power to the museum community. They have such a difficult time raising money that I think it takes some real ingenuity to try something new.

If you think museums should be free and accessible to all, you should go work at one and see how difficult it is to keep programs and exhibits going (not to mention keep the lights on). Museums are an expensive endeavor. Who will pay for them otherwise? Because trust me, the Museum has already tried for every grant and corporate sponsor they can.

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By: The Digest. 01.15.08. at C-MONSTER.net /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:16:49 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-628 […] people have been getting their panties in a knot over the Brooklyn Museum’s paid Twitter feed, 1stfans. I personally don’t think it’s a big […]

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By: aehny /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:59:31 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-627 A response to Greg above, who doesn’t want to see “Twitter become overrun with commercial interests”:

The Brooklyn Museum is a non-profit entity. So inherently, it cannot (and does not) have “commercial interests.” In which case I guess I don’t fully understand your objection…

Are you suggesting, instead, that non-profit programs like 1stfans will somehow cause a domino effect, leading eventually to Coca-Cola and Nike and Lexus trying to sell me memberships? I guess I don’t think that scenario is likely — especially since on Twitter (unlike Facebook, where I can’t block the ads) I can choose to “unfollow” anyone at anytime.

I am more than a little baffled — and, honestly, disheartened — by people who criticize an accessible and affordable giving program at a time when most people find it incredibly difficult to be generous and philanthropic at all, given the state of our economy. As for me, I’m proud to be part of the incredibly creative, interesting, supportive, passionate group of 1stfans who have signaled their affection and support for this museum by making a mere $20 donation.

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By: Amy Fox /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-626 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:57:34 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-626 I have to admit that the idea of charging bothered me at first, but decided to reserve judgement to see how everything developed. After it became apparent that the content and interaction of the main twitter account is still as strong as before most of my concern disappeared. It’s also wonderful to see how welcoming you have been to far-away members. Many organizations forget that their online audience often includes a portion of people who have limited or no access to the physical location. My Swoon print arrived today and sending it must have taken considerable fraction of my membership fee.

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By: Greg /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:54:04 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-625 For me the issue is not paying a nominal fee for a “membership” as others suggest, the issue for me personally is that the Brooklyn Museum is using a free and open service, Twitter, to essentially funnel members, i.e. money, to their closed program “1stfans”. The fact that this membership is in support of or in service of art is irrelevant. What’s to keep any and all institutions from using Twitter for their own benefit? Nothing, nothing at all. Should any and all institutions interested in directing people/money to their places of business do so through this free service? Again my personal opinion, or better yet my hope, is no, I’d rather not see Twitter become over run with commercial interests but rather remain as free and open a space as possible. I am an artist and I enjoy the Brooklyn Museum very much, just not a huge “fan” of this project. Best.

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By: Despi /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-624 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:11:50 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-624 Always two sides to every story, I guess…I joined 1stfans because it is innovative, interesting and it helps me deal with the guilt and shame caused by how much money I spend on stupid stuff (like Starbucks) every week. (Maybe Will could benefit from the Starbucks guilt and shame angle?)

And,….I hate Twitter! That’s right, I joined this elite group, with closed-door Twitter privileges and I am not even reading it….It honestly, never once, occurred to me that the BM was charging me for Twitter access…because they’re really not. When you think about the time and effort the museum puts in to being an industry-leader in the use of social media, $20 seems like a drop in the bucket…using @floodfish’s logic you should be angry anytime you pay to see an art exhibition. Stuff costs money! All stuff….even “invisible” cool internet stuff.

Thanks to Shelley and Will for creating this dialogue!

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By: nina meledandri /2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/comment-page-1/#comment-623 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:58:42 +0000 /bloggers/2009/01/14/how-do-you-convince-a-free-content-advocate-like-me-to-join-1stfans/#comment-623 yes the success of a tweeterchive (better than tweet-chive) might vary from project to project but given the inherent essence of tweeting i guess i assume that any artist working within this format is by default kind of turned on by communicating with large numbers of people on a fairly consistent basis.
and, if the tweets are more uni-directional as opposed to responsive, that says a lot about the essence of the project as well.
i think there is a really gr8 balance that can be struck between what happens within this (somewhat) insular community and making the energy that is generated by it available to the community at large.

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